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Enloe on Guns:


“For the record, if some SOB out there thinks he is going to take any of my possessions without my approval, he will be introduced to Mr. Glock. I don’t care if I kill him, I don’t care if I cripple him, what I DO care about is protecting all that I have worked for in this non-stop motion we call life.”

Tim Enloe, May 2005, The Force Arena


“I love stories like this. Our government has become so pathetic in enforcing our laws, citizens are having to take justice into their own hands. No, I don't care about how these two rotting teens were raised, nor do I care that they had "no chance", and I of course could care less about their oppressive sob story. And what about these kids parents? Too many today think having a kid automatically makes them a parent. They lack discipline. They lack control. They lack parenting. People who raise kids like this shouldn't be allowed to breed. Everyone knows right and wrong. Thankfully, these wastes can no longer just be wrong, they are now simply DEAD wrong. Credit goes to www.ajc.com.

Tim Enloe, January 2005, The Force Arena

Jumpy teens died in store they came to rob

By Saeed Ahmed

The cash register at Shoat’s Grocery and Package Store in Oglethorpe County held just $300 Monday when the two teenagers walked in.

Gloria Turner and husband Bobby Doster were about to hand over money when one teenager forced a shootout. But, deciding the shopkeepers were too slow in complying with their demands, one of the young men pulled out a gun, igniting a gunbattle with the 62-year-old owner and his wife.

Both teens wound up dead. “I’d have given it to them. Our insurance would have covered it,” said Gloria Turner, who has owned the store for eight years with her husband.

Turner, 56, was rearranging the store, in the tiny community of Hutchins, when the teenagers walked in Monday evening.

One was wearing a wig that partly covered his eyes, prompting Turner to quip, “Can you see to walk with that thing on?” The teen mumbled something, she recalled. He ran past Turner and shoved her husband, Bobby “Shoats” Doster, against the bakery counter.

The second teen pulled a white skullcap over his face, pushed Turner to the cash register and demanded money. “I was about to give it to them . . . when the first guy says, ‘You're not moving fast enough,’ and pulls out a gun,” Turner said Tuesday.

The teen aimed the gun at her husband and fired. The bullet missed. His gun jammed.

That was enough for Doster, who pulled out a .380 from his pocket. At the same time, his wife grabbed the 9 mm she kept under under the counter. Both began firing at the teenagers, who ran to the back of the store for cover. A full-fledged gunbattle erupted.

The teens crouched behind a meat counter. The one with the gun popped up every few seconds to fire another round. The unarmed teen kept shouting, “Shoot them! Shoot them!” while tossing at the couple whatever items he could get his hands on, Turner said.

The exchange of gunfire lasted less than five minutes “but it felt like hours,” Turner said. She remembered firing with one hand and dialing 911 with the other.

Deputies arrived four minutes later to find the store littered with shell casings. Both teenagers lay sprawled on the floor - one shot several times, the other with a bullet in his chest, said Sheriff Mike Smith. Authorities withheld the identities of the teenagers until relatives could be notified. One was 17, the other 19, police said. Both were from Athens.

Turner and her husband will not be charged, Smith said.

“People have a right to protect their lives and their property,” Smith said.“We don’t encourage them to take the law in their hands, but sometimes they are left with no other choice.”

Turner and her husband moved to Hutchins, an unincorporated community in Oglethorpe County about 80 miles east of Atlanta, to get away from the encroaching development in Winder.

The attempted robbery Tuesday was the first holdup at their little store, which sells everything from alcohol to fishing supplies to sandwiches.

It also was the first robbery in Oglethorpe County in 30 years in which someone was killed, Sheriff Smith said.“Shoats is a little shaken up by it all, but it hasn’t hit me yet,” Turner said, cleaning up the store Tuesday.

“I know it will, when I sit down to rest for a minute. They were humans’ lives, after all.”


“I love stories like this. I have no doubt the gun freaks will call foul on this one. Let me guess, this innocent bystandard was cleaning his gun on a dark cool night and the evil Pizza man was gunning for a Brutha since he didn’t get a tip. Credit goes to Worldnetdaily.com.

Tim Enloe, June 2004, The Force Arena

Pizza man saved by gun, but fired for packin’ heat

Prosecutors call it “clear case of self-defense,” yet national chain prohibits carrying firearms

A pizza deliveryman won’t face charges for fatally shooting a would-be robber several times when he was approached in a high-crime area, but his employer, Pizza Hut, has fired him for violating a company policy against carrying firearms.

Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, says he’s been delivering pizzas for 20 years and has always packed heat on the job.

According to a report in the Indianapolis Star, prosecutors announced Friday the Carmel, Ind., man will not face criminal charges.

“It’s a clear case of self-defense,” Deputy Prosecutor Barb Crawford said. “He did what the law allows him to do to protect himself.”

Jerome Brown-Dancler approached Honeycutt at around 11 p.m. on May 17 just after he had made a pizza delivery in Indianapolis. According to the report, Brown-Dancler pointed a 9 mm handgun at the Pizza Hut employee as he was entering his van.

Brown-Dancler’s gun carried a loaded 14-round clip but had no bullet in the chamber, Crawford told the Star. When confronted, Honeycutt pulled his own 9 mm from the back of his pants and fired until it was empty. He says he fired 15 times in about eight seconds. An autopsy revealed Brown-Dancler was hit at least 10 times.

According to the report, Honeycutt insists Brown-Dancler didn’t fall until after the last shot was fired.

“The guy kept standing. He knew he was injured when he fell,” Honeycutt told the paper. “His concern was he made an error, and the only thing he could say when I was grabbing his gun off the ground was, ‘I just wanted pizza.’”

After the encounter, Honeycutt took Brown-Dancler’s gun, fearing it might be stolen if it was left with the body. He got in his van, drove to the Pizza Hut restaurant where he worked and told his manager to call police, Crawford said.

“This was late at night. This was a high-crime area,” Crawford is quoted as saying. “He left because he wasn’t sure whether or not Brown-Dancler had any friends with him. As it turns out, he did indeed have friends with him. They left when they heard shots fired.”

Honeycutt says he plans to find another job delivering pizzas.

“Other criminals better think twice, because I'm going back out there,” he said, “and I know I’m not alone in the way I think about this.”

Some Pizza Hut customers have complained to the company after it fired Honeycutt.

“I hope those of you in the media will realize the incredible unfairness of a huge company telling its employees ‘in essence’ they must agree to die for the company rather than use legal reasonable means to defend themselves,” Rick Whitham, an Indianapolis attorney, told WND. He says he saw Pizza Hut’s action as “clear discrimination against those who choose to lawfully exercise a legal, heavily regulated right.”

Whitham wrote to the company: “I don't spend my money with businesses that openly discriminate against people such as myself who understand that the police have no affirmative duty to protect any particular citizen and that no company is worth dying for - particularly yours.”




“For the record, if some SOB out there thinks he is going to take any of my possessions without my approval, he will be introduced to Mr. Glock. I don’t care if I kill him, I don’t care if I cripple him, what I DO care about is protecting all that I have worked for in this non-stop motion we call life. Now it appears as though Roswell (A suburb of Atlanta, GA) politicians want to take away my right to protect my property. While they aren’t saying it directly, this is just the beginning of a focus to deny me my right to bare arms. Thus, the continued decay of our America continues... Credit goes to www.ajc.com.

Tim Enloe, May 2005, The Force Arena

Ordinance changes rile gun-rights advocates

By Paul Kaplan

A showdown with gun-rights advocates next Monday was all but assured this week when a Roswell city councilman charged with amending a city ordinance settled on wording that would strip away rights dear to many hunters and gun owners.

In a special public meeting Monday night, City Councilman Kent Igleheart told about 50 residents that the amended law would remove wording that had given residents the right to use force to protect property, and also make it unlawful to hunt with a bow and arrow in the city.

Igleheart said the change regarding the use of force brings the city’s law, written in 1955, into conformity with the state law, which allows the use of force only to protect a person.

In a national alert to its members, the National Rifle Association called that an “egregious amendment.” NRA supporters then flooded City Hall with calls and e-mails of protest. The NRA maintains that there’s a fine line between protecting a person and his property, and that the change could be a precursor to citizens losing their right to self-defense.

The decision to ban hunting with bows and arrows came after hunters spent weeks trying to work out a compromise that allowed some bowhunting under strict guidelines. But no deal was reached, and the wording Igleheart said he plans to present to the City Council on Monday says simply that you cannot discharge a bow in the city unless it’s at an approved range.

“They’re not happy about that,” Igleheart said, referring to the hunters who showed up at Monday’s meeting.

The hunters had proposed exemptions for bowhunters who shoot down from elevated stands, plus a minimum distance from adjoining property.

“I thought about that seriously,” Igleheart said. “My fear was, if we put in certain parameters, then I think we’ve created an enforcement nightmare for our police officers. How do they know where the property line is?”

The changes were spurred by an incident in March, when a hunter shot a deer with an arrow in Roswell. The deer ran off, staggered into a nearby subdivision, collapsed and bled to death. Some residents were horrified to learn there were hunters in the woods behind their houses, and the city decided to amend its ordinance regarding hunting and the use of weapons.

The City Council will take up Igleheart’s proposal Monday at City Hall. The meeting starts at 7:30 p.m.




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You know,I have come to the conclusuion that I am a very lucky Jedi. My readers are very astute and understand the simple idea of self responsibilty. In saying that, the following post was NOT found by me utilizing the force. Better yet, it was brought to us by another Jedi. In order to preserve his identity, we will simply call him "MARK MARK BINKS". Here is the post. Glad to see the full circle belief and Lex Talonis in full affect:”

Tim Enloe, November 2004, The Force Arena

Fla. Man Kills Intruder At Hurricane-Damaged Home

POSTED: 10:38 am EST November 4, 2004

PENSACOLA, Fla. - An elderly man defending his hurricane-damaged home fatally shot an intruder as the two scuffled, Escambia County sheriff’s deputies say.

Retired oil industry worker James Workman, 77, and his wife, Kathryn, have been living in a trailer outside their home since it was damaged by Hurricane Ivan on Sept. 16.

Deputies said the intruder, whose identity was being withheld Thursday pending positive identification and notification of relatives, entered the couple’s yard about 2:20 a.m. Wednesday.

Workman told investigators he confronted the man and when he refused to leave tried to warn him away by firing a shot from his .38-caliber handgun into the ground.

The intruder then entered the trailer, where Workman’s wife was. Workman told deputies he went in after the man who grabbed him and then he shot the intruder as they struggled.

Prosecutors were reviewing the case to determine whether the killing was justified or if Workman should be charged with a crime.

The shooting in a hard-hit area just west of Pensacola occurred about 100 from an unrelated situation Oct. 8, when a neighbor fired a .22-caliber rifle to fend off a growling, machete-wielding man later subdued by deputies with a bean bag projectile and Taser.






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